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“The machine that goes ping” and the missing link in talent development

March 7, 2012

I’d like to start this blog entry with a pause for your own thoughts and also to watch a classic Monty Python clip. Firstly consider YOUR sporting journey and what social factors (school, parents, family, peers, geographical location, clubs etc) had a mediating effect on it. Secondly, consider that these factors are rarely considered in the understanding of talent and performance, and that there is a belief that this can only be found through the application of scientific principles on sportspeople. Finally, watch the 3 minute sketch, and keep it in the back of your mind throughout the blog post.

So, we may well acknowledge that sport does not occur in a social vacuum, and that there is a need to understand our social history to understand performance, but what evidence is there? As a talent and participation sociologist it is fair to say that there is little evidence. Does that mean there is no evidence? No, it means that we have become obsessed with ‘machines that go ping’ and the use of scientific measurement to determine talent, performance and also potential, and forgotten about the individual involved. That is not to say that the use of science does not have its place, in fact it is VITALLY important, however, we need to understand the whole story of the individual (and we are only beginning to look at the ‘social’ aspects of this).

So, the issue of talent development is one that causes a huge amount of political rhetoric, sporting ideals, ill-informed judgement and ‘sciencey’ sounding ideas (as Matt’s earlier blog on the 10,000 hours idea highlights). However, what all of these issues show is an unwavering belief that a positivistic approach is the only answer. More recently however, the SCUK Participant Development Literature Review by Bailey et al (2010) suggests that a Bio-Psycho-SOCIAL (with emphasis added) approach is just as important. Consider that many of the key models adopted by the UK are ‘socially’ flawed. For example, Côté’s DMSP involves stages that can be linked to the three stage Canadian education system. There’s nothing wrong with this – apart from the need to be aware of this social context and consider how it applies in the British two level system.

OK, what next? Well, how about understanding a little more about how these social factors affect talent and performance in context? A study I am engaged in with colleagues at the PGA (Professional Golfer’s Association) is an interesting example, as is the work being developed by the Pathways to Podium team in Canada and Australia. For my work, we have ‘profiled’ 900 PGA assistant professionals (all of whom have turned professional). And the results – well, that will be for a later post – but suffice to say as an example, there is an over-representation of players who are the youngest of 2 siblings with an older sister. Does that mean that because of this they have a genetic advantage to play golf? Unlikely – but this must mean there are important familial social dynamics that we need to take into account in their development as young performers.

So? This blog entry does not intend to suggest that sports science is wrong in its approach, but that it does not tell (nor consider the whole story). It also means that many potential performers (of all levels) are missed, left behind or drop out because their social needs and backgrounds are ignored.

The answer? A bio-psycho-social approach to every aspect needs to be considered before a truly inter-disciplinary understanding of participation can take place, after all – we coach the person not just the body. Oh yes, and a healthy dose of thin and thick luck (c.f. Bailey & Toms, 2010)……

Dr Martin Toms

3 Comments
  1. James permalink
    March 8, 2012 10:07 am

    The family and social environment is of the utmost importance, DR T would have known nothing of cricket & sport if I hadnt hurled cricket balls at him throughout his formative years!

  2. Tim Orford class of 2006 permalink
    March 7, 2012 6:21 pm

    Hi Martin,

    An excellent insight and summary. I know of many PE teachers who have the “I could have made it if….” syndrome, me being one! I believe that it is far too simplistic to look merely at ones physical attributes (though they clearly play a large part in the ceiling of success that can be achieved) but rather a more holistic view to include both mental capacity for success and talent (psychological attributes and traits common with elite athletes) as well as identifying and reducing social barriers. As a teacher I have numerous examples of students who have been part of sporting academies or schemes of excellence; some have not made it because they do not possess the physical attributes (could they have ever improved further if it was a genetic stumbling block?); some because they do not possess the mental attributes (could they ever get their head around the complicated tactics and strategies?);some because of unavoidable social reasons such as the breakdown of a family unti that was once the support for the student to participate; and some because of, in my opinion, completely controllable social and economical factors such as access to the best teams and coaches. In terms of talent identification and the lack of a national testing programme it begs the question is the old saying of “right time, right place” true? For example – how many scouts will watch students play Rugby for their state school teams when still a large majority of players selected for English schools come from private schools? There are many, many more reasons an examples but to summarise my point….if students went through testing for physical and mental levels of excellence then more time and money should be spent ensuring that those potential stars will not drop out due to factors that could be controlled. Whether it could ever get to the level whereby parents were stopped from having more children in order to ensure the best possible home life for the next Lionel Messi or Steve Redgrave etc is an interesting thought!

    • sportped permalink
      March 8, 2012 8:15 am

      Hi Tim, thanks for the response and comments. Your examples are great and part of the reality and fabric of real life, so to use ‘simple’ measures within testing is too limiting. A multi-disciplinary approach is spot on – although as you say controllabel and uncontrollable variables (thin and thick luck) are important. Your last point is an interesting one too – and also one I have heard of anecdotally from parents themselves who stick at having two children only……

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